UK engine into Jap car

First post he says he is getting a complete uk set up for 900 and asks does he need the ecu..

2nd post. You say no he doesn't..

So that's a uk engine and jap ecu combo..

You tell him to change the manifold and turbo.... That still leaves the engine essentially a uk engine as you didn't mention anything about changing the engine loom..

????????

If he gets his UK engine, and doesn't change the wiring or pins at ecu it won't start?????
 
Also.. What's to stop them getting the uk ecu, key, and pick up ring from around the barrel..
And fitting it all as a complete Uk transplant and avoiding mapping all together?
Provided he doesn't mind a bit less power of course?
 
[quote author=KENC link=topic=42128.msg482459#msg482459 date=1404379973]
First post he says he is getting a complete uk set up for 900 and asks does he need the ecu..

2nd post. You say no he doesn't..

So that's a uk engine and jap ecu combo..

You tell him to change the manifold and turbo.... That still leaves the engine essentially a uk engine as you didn't mention anything about changing the engine loom..

????????

If he gets his UK engine, and doesn't change the wiring or pins at ecu it won't start?????
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you are wrong ken. simple as. wrong.

the long engine has no wiring left on it.

so no need to swap any pins. why would they? it was same wiring as was before to start with.


So they have a short block, pair of heads and timing belt set.???? no wiring there?
 
[quote author=KENC link=topic=42128.msg482460#msg482460 date=1404380301]
Also.. What's to stop them getting the uk ecu, key, and pick up ring from around the barrel..
And fitting it all as a complete Uk transplant and avoiding mapping all together?
Provided he doesn't mind a bit less power of course?
[/quote]


thats totally up to them. way more work for them.
 
[quote author=davelegacy™ link=topic=42128.msg482462#msg482462 date=1404380655]
[quote author=KENC link=topic=42128.msg482459#msg482459 date=1404379973]
First post he says he is getting a complete uk set up for 900 and asks does he need the ecu..

2nd post. You say no he doesn't..

So that's a uk engine and jap ecu combo..

You tell him to change the manifold and turbo.... That still leaves the engine essentially a uk engine as you didn't mention anything about changing the engine loom..

????????

If he gets his UK engine, and doesn't change the wiring or pins at ecu it won't start?????
[/quote]


Have you read something that u didn't? Where do they say they are using a long engine with no wiring?




you are wrong ken. simple as. wrong.

the long engine has no wiring left on it.

so no need to swap any pins. why would they? it was same wiring as was before to start with.


So they have a short block, pair of heads and timing belt set.???? no wiring there?



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Where in the first post does it say he got a long engine with no wiring? I can only see that he has sourced a uk engine and can get everything for 900??
 
[quote author=KENC link=topic=42128.msg482464#msg482464 date=1404381199]
[quote author=davelegacy™ link=topic=42128.msg482462#msg482462 date=1404380655]
[quote author=KENC link=topic=42128.msg482459#msg482459 date=1404379973]
First post he says he is getting a complete uk set up for 900 and asks does he need the ecu..

2nd post. You say no he doesn't..

So that's a uk engine and jap ecu combo..

You tell him to change the manifold and turbo.... That still leaves the engine essentially a uk engine as you didn't mention anything about changing the engine loom..

????????

If he gets his UK engine, and doesn't change the wiring or pins at ecu it won't start?????
[/quote]


Have you read something that u didn't? Where do they say they are using a long engine with no wiring?




you are wrong ken. simple as. wrong.

the long engine has no wiring left on it.

so no need to swap any pins. why would they? it was same wiring as was before to start with.


So they have a short block, pair of heads and timing belt set.???? no wiring there?



[/quote]

Where in the first post does it say he got a long engine with no wiring? I can only see that he has sourced a uk engine and can get everything for 900??
[/quote]


im lost here ken.


you get a uk engine.

take off inlet manifold. so now no wiring at all on it.




fit jdm inlet etc. so own car manifold loom on. and all else is same.

so they are only replacing long block with uk engine.


first post was asking advice and saying what he had on offer.


my advise is say to seller. sorry dont need all that. dont even need inlet manifold. how much minus all that etc.
 
Yeah I understand what your saying Dave regards swapping the inlet AND The Loom.. The loom being the key item.

The title says UK engine into a Jap car.
So that's where I'm coming from.. For someone looking to do a Straight swap of a Uk Engine directly Into a Jap car, as you know won't start and will need a bit of messing... Whether it be changing pins at ecu, extending the cam and crank sensor wires and swapping them, swapping the engine loom alone or swapping the loom and inlet manifold together, or swapping ecus..

Are we all singing off the same hymn sheet now lol
 
Right thanks for the help and the heated debate (which was not expected or intended but pretty entertaining and educational :leggy2 )

The plan is

Second hand : UK long bolck
Original JAP: Intake, Exhaust, Turbo, Loom ECU and ancillaries.

Once together build up oil pressure and hopefully it starts.

Wheather we agree or not if it will start, is a bridge we will have to cross when we get there.

All going well when its finished, Dave ya might be able to organise a mapping session for it. Will also need my forester mapped aswell!

thanks lads :thumbsup:
 
[quote author=davelegacy™ link=topic=42128.msg482426#msg482426 date=1404343683]
[quote author=Stevie link=topic=42128.msg482302#msg482302 date=1404301552]
Okey doke!


Set us straight where needed.


We have been looking for a uk wrx engine only, due to the extra reliability factor.


[/quote] If the jap engine ecu is not mapped for our fuel she wont be as reliable than


Absolute zero zero zero more reliability factor.
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there is no extra reliabilty because you do not know what has been or happened to engine since new.

how does buyer of engine know if previous owner let it go low on oil just before was scrapped/crashed etc.


so without stripping how would you know if there is a bearing or two scored??
 
Not my point.. safer to run a uk engine with uk ecu... than a jap engine with jap ecu no?.

i know no second hand engine is better than the other but uk setup is safer.
 
Thanks for the help lads we got the car up and running yesterday no hick ups.

Huge thanks to autoworks_danny who swopped the heads from the v4 long block we got with the v5 ones which allowed us to use standard engine loom.
 
The first engine wasnt used as it was taken out of the car before we heard it running! Probably should have mentioned that :thumbsup: so we came across a good V4 UK engine and used that!
 
Thats changes every thing. As although works piston dish cc is different.

As in to regards commpresion ratio and head gasket thickness you used etc.
 
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