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    What hot hatch?

    So since the oil burning diesel a7 will be gone this week i need to line up the net purchase. Im liking the idea of a small fun hot hatch( not too small, im 6ft4!)

    Budget is 7k-7.5k max( needs a bit of tax for his price)

    Ford focus ST
    Golf GTI
    Astra OPC
    Leon FR

    I test drove 2 ST's over the weekend, nice drive and sound from the 5 cylinder, supposed to be fairly reliable once you check of the known faults on any potential purchases:

    2008 blue 3 door and it was in absolute pieces, some wheeler dealer trader had it and knew nothing about the car. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...turbo/14948247

    2008 FL White 5 door, nice car good condition, no real issue, just cosmetic things. best price 7.5k, might get him down to 7k
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...us-st/16083965

    Going to look at 08 3 door in black today, would remove the sticker kit
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...us-st/15593080

    On Wednesday going to look at an 06 3door in blue, might get it for 4k
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...us-st/15873044


    GTI - common as muck around my parts, ideally would go for a 3 door 07/08 variant but the cleans ones are probably out of budget

    OPC - only went to view one so far, looks like it was sitting up for about a year on a forecourt so walked away from that. Heard the torque steer is so bad they want to put you in the wall Cole trickle style

    Leon FR - povo spec GTI, bargain purchase but heard they are quite basic and cheap looking interior, lack of sound deadening can be an annoyance on long trips, could get it for 3.5k, needs timing belt done
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...on-fr/15950482

    I know all the fanboys will tell me get a scooby :) , I would probably only consider the hatch which is way out of budget currently

    If anyone knows anything good or bad about the above ones ore has any recommendations, please post the link here. Firstly looking at Dublin/Kildare/Meath based cars

    Open to other models to just nothing french please :)

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    Type R Civic?

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    Renault Sport Clio 200 Cup Chassis? https://www.donedeal.ie/carparts-for...o-200/15939134

    There's also a yellow one but with higher miles, extra 3k dolla bills and no cup chassis or Recaros. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...s-200/16132238

    Or the bigger brother, megane? They're turbo'd.

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    If you're thinking VW and SEAT... what about Skoda?

    Skoda typically better interior by some stretch than the SEATs.

    e.g. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...180hp/14888462 2011 car with asking price on your budget, so probably would get off a bit, and in Ashbourne so within the area you mentioned.

    Vrs Octavias can definitely be got within that budget too and same engine as the Golf GTI, but more comfort and not as common.
    e.g. an 2006 for €3300 asking price. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...black/16125576
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    Stay away from that 1.4 tsi engine it's absolute chocolate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colm Mc View Post
    Type R Civic?
    A bit to boy racer i think for me :)

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRA View Post
    Renault Sport Clio 200 Cup Chassis? https://www.donedeal.ie/carparts-for...o-200/15939134

    There's also a yellow one but with higher miles, extra 3k dolla bills and no cup chassis or Recaros. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...s-200/16132238

    Or the bigger brother, megane? They're turbo'd.
    Sorry, not a fan of the Reanults due to some past experiiences

    Quote Originally Posted by Keadeen View Post
    If you're thinking VW and SEAT... what about Skoda?

    Skoda typically better interior by some stretch than the SEATs.

    e.g. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...180hp/14888462 2011 car with asking price on your budget, so probably would get off a bit, and in Ashbourne so within the area you mentioned.

    Vrs Octavias can definitely be got within that budget too and same engine as the Golf GTI, but more comfort and not as common.
    e.g. an 2006 for €3300 asking price. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...black/16125576
    Ooh i didn't know they did the VRS in the petrol variant in that age. Could be a contender, I was trying to keep it to hatchback in size though

    Quote Originally Posted by GORDON GT SERIES II View Post
    Stay away from that 1.4 tsi engine it's absolute chocolate
    Which engine is that? The one in the Golf GT's?

    Quote Originally Posted by STiBrian View Post
    No Diesels i should have said :)

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    Something different like a 350z?

    335i?

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...86bhp/15386363



    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...-335i/14400886



    Boxster S?

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...ter-s/13568767



    An alternative to the Focus ST, if you can find one. What about a Volvo S40 T5? Or a Saab 9-5 Aero? Or the smaller 9-3 Aero?

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    Stop messing around a nd buy back the legacy

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    Yeah same 1.4 engine ad the golf and if you have one and needs an engine goid luck getting one

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    I'd stick with the focus st.

    With a few sensible mods they can be up at 320bhp.

    Drove one last weekend for the first time and was surprised how much nicer it was to drive than a gti

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    St all the way, cant beat the aul volvo lump

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontommy View Post
    Stop messing around a nd buy back the legacy
    As said

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    Have a 207 gt 150 bhp with the map it's will see 180 great spec and is big inside glass roof park sensor duel climate control auto headlights rain sensor wipers auto dim rear mirror heated mirrors and lots more ...I changed the chain when I got it and it has never missed a beat....there are some gti's on dd for very handy money .....I love it and it Handel's well and the BMW engine is cracking little yoke ...1.6 turbo..
    IT TOOK ME FOOKING 3 YEARS TO WORK OUT HOW TO PUT THIS SMALL BIT OF TEXT HERE!!!!!

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    welcome back to world of petrol engines

    ST if you can get a clean one; id probably consider gti more cause ive never had one

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    Focus st would probably be my own choice but what's tax on them ...I know it's a small car but the fiesta st is a little cracker great fun car bit plastic inside but fast enough the 2lt duratec is a smashing lump
    IT TOOK ME FOOKING 3 YEARS TO WORK OUT HOW TO PUT THIS SMALL BIT OF TEXT HERE!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith dublin View Post
    Focus st would probably be my own choice but what's tax on them ...I know it's a small car but the fiesta st is a little cracker great fun car bit plastic inside but fast enough the 2lt duratec is a smashing lump
    Yeah tax is 1200 is is the only annoyance on the ST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontommy View Post
    Stop messing around a nd buy back the legacy
    Or the twin scroll wagon off Adrian.

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    "Leon FR - povo spec GTI, bargain purchase but heard they are quite basic and cheap looking interior, lack of sound deadening can be an annoyance on long trips, could get it for 3.5k, needs timing belt done
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sal...on-fr/15950482 "

    I have an 08 Leon FR. Bought it as could not insure a WRX and no 5 doors ST for sale at the time (that white one above came 7 weeks too late for me). They have all you need in a car, cruise, air con, blue tooth, etc. Seats are nice and supportive, steering wheel feels nice, etc. They handle as good as a Mk5 Gti. Maybe even a little sharper as stiffer and feel less refined than a Gti Golf so more fun when pushing on.

    On the downside they can be a little loud on motorway spins. I drove to Galway/Dublin return on motorway. On way up I never noticed it, but little lad did not sleep that night so I was shattered when driving back and that was the only time I felt it was loud. Plastics and the like are a little cheaper than VW counterparts, but not noticeably so, really has not bothered me. They are stiff stock, people recommend getting Eibach springs to improve the ride. Mine has them and it is still a little stiff, but I did come out of a Mondeo so anything sporty will feel stiffer and only on really bad roads do you feel it.

    Given the price of the one above, it is worth a look and see what you think IMO. The saving in tax over an ST would cover the cost of the timing belt.
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    I'd go for the white or black ST. Being near Phil's RS, the white really pops when taken care of.
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